Good evening and I'll call the city of Camden Fall City Council meeting for Tuesday
August fifth to order roll call. Council member Duncan you're also here Johnson
your Mattson McCusker show bloom and Mayor Robinson all placed after the Pledge of
Allegiance. A pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States
of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all. Living everyone talking to the
meeting. At this time the chair will take the movie motion to approve the agenda
submitted second of
a motion by my second by Bill all those in favor and I posed
various moves us on to Item five the seating which is public input so this is may
speak to issues not on the agenda before speaking please give your name and address
for the minutes please limit your comments to three minutes is there anyone wishing
to address the council under public input.
Thank you my name is Diane Logue and I live it three one nine two four county
twenty four Boulevard just on the west side of fifty two and I'm here to publicly
go on the record with this body. About the closing of twenty four crossing
and I have talked with different people in the administration and services and they
all have told me they take direction from this body so that's why I'm here and I
know some of you have participated with us with the senators and their
representatives. But I'm feeling like the city is not being really
proactive in kind of being assertive with the state and I base that on my
involvement with the city of savage even though it's in the dinosaur age from
eighty seven to eighty six to ninety seven. I'm just worried if you let them close
it before the study is done that it will never reopen. And I'm asking you to
be assertive and proactive and work with them to reach
a compromise to at least leave it open till the study is finished get
a stay of execution. If you speak you know I have
a business on that side as well as well
a lot of our businesses over there and I'm not sure how would work if they end up
closing it if we would have to pay to reopen it if that's what the study dictates
or that I'm not privy to but I would suggest that if that's the case then let's
just barricade it so you can't cross but leave the right often Ryan's open intil
the decision is made and then if we have to pay to close it maybe that's
a wash and throwing these out is ideas the big crux though for me is fire safety
for us on the west side because God forbid we have
a semi accident that blocks one of the westbound. Roundabouts
and for some reason the big vehicles can't get around and I know the hospital had
to have two access points because of that very thing and also for tourism which I
don't expect in Cannon Falls but. For all those businesses on the west side it
could mean the matter of us surviving or not
a fire and I have animals Dick Peterson has animals the hotel if for some reason
either one of those two western roundabouts happened to have an accident that is
before the French road we're doomed we have no access. And we need access we need
to be taking care of it for that. And I kind of in
a bold statement want to say if it's good enough for the hospital to have two axis
points I think it's good enough for our taxpayers also because we are blessed to
have that beautiful facility but they are a user of services and not
a pair of taxes in our community and we on the west side are the businesses that
are paying a lot of taxes to this community. And I'm afraid it's going to make us
a ghost town from
a business standpoint and if we don't fight and fight hard to keep that going until
till they can prove it's not safe. It's going to it's going to make us
a ghost town and we're we going to replace those businesses in the tech space the
people living in Cannon Falls can't support that kind of tech space if those
businesses continue to go under so thank you for hearing me and I just wanted to be
on public record so that if you feel strongly about it you can direct Brenda chief
McCormick any of the emergency people I've been told they take their direction from
you and how they'll go forward and fight for this so thank you very much did you
grow up the kitchen
a week ago I was gone. Yeah yeah I have been to the other meetings too OK but I
know I know it's I know that if you're not sitting still but I have through prison
and again I know it's
a long time ago but through personal experience. The state will kind of roll over
us as much as will let them in
a certain extent we just needs we need this town to fight for us we need them to
just say hey you know I'm not going to roll over to stone has been proactive honest
. You know far sign each and all this I know but your hands are kind of tight they
have been fighting. I mean if you just only so much you can do your johnson to be
a pain in their side every day be
a pain in their side every day you know I know they have to receive direction from
you and that's I guess in
a way that's what I'm asking is that you just tell him fight every day for us and
so that maybe they'll listen and trust me they have I mean they've been there we've
got we've all been there. Been there you know Representative Kelly.
You know we can so we can get there I mean about the next step is to call the
governor I mean and let's do it I mean and that's something that doing I do want to
look at the fire issues I mean as far as getting there's no way to get you know
when you talk to some I mean you're not the first person that's brought that up to
me somebody else brought that up the other day and I do want to look at that issue
so it's scary Well look at it and see what what we may have to do OK Thank you
thanks. Anyone else that wishes to address the council under public input
seeing as there are none will move on to public hearings at this time we'll go to
Resolution twenty eighty nine certified on paid utility charges to be collected
with taxes and well. Thank you Mayor. You
have in your packets. The information regarding the unpaid utilities for this
latest quarter the. Residents do have an opportunity to address that this evening
if they wish to do so otherwise these will be added to the property taxes for
collection on next year's taxes if they remain unpaid on up
a little bit as in the amounts on this particular list are there while there is
more in just the numbers in general and part of the reason for that is because we
had
a staff member that processes these that was on vacation so she had to put these together
a week earlier than normal so there is
a definite possibility that some payments came in and this could be reduced OK.
This time we will open the public hearing was there anyone wishing to address the
council under the public hearing on the paid utility charges.
C.N.N.
As there is no one wishing to address the chaos of the scene of this we will close
the public hearing at this time and this time I will accept the motion to adopt
resolution twenty eighty nine
a resolution certified on paid utility charges to be collected with taxes. Oh I'll
make that motion
a motion by Bill second second by moral any further discussion is just right thing
when they're all what was what was the DAs last time I thought it was up about five
thousand just I guess that's the writer like me. OK yeah
this sorry I was just kind of wonder why it was. Well as I said the numbers are up
because of the timing issue with the way the payments are processed and so we do
hope that those numbers will go down before the actual certification is sent to the
county and we will process all those payments before that is done so anything that
has come in will definitely be credited in every working from this list you know
the discussion not all those in favor I pose various.
Moves us all into the second item under public hearings which is the second Street
Southwest improvement project. We're going to conduct
a public hearing and then we'll have resolution twenty nine you want to order an
improvement in awarding the bid. And Mr Johnson.
Thank you mayor and council members. What you have in front of you is
a packet of information. Informational memo and have also included the
notice of hearing the mailed notice of hearing of us for
a special assessment for the improvement hearing for tonight. Mr Anderson from
S.C.H. Has included
a letter related to the bid itself the bids were opened on July twenty ninth
and we received two bids and that the low bid was eighty three thousand one seventy
eight and then based on those numbers Gregg put together. A couple of
different scenarios for you for
a potential assessment role one if you look at the assessment roll spreadsheet
he's got one one column towards the second or the third of the right column shows
the assessment per unit and the last one it would be if you went with the front
footage assessment instead and the difference is there now you will notice there
are
a couple of duplicate names. In Darryl McLean and first English they're each
they each have two parcels according to the tax personal I.D.'s that Greg looked
out on out. So what would be in order would be to
conduct the improvement hearing if Council so chooses after
accepting public input. Would be to obviously close the public hearing and then
consider resolution to order the improvement and award the bid to Petunia's
roadways. For the bid come in so high over what we
estimated. You know about my my guess is that we had
a small amount of work to do one block is free and the fact that one of the two
bidders is actually doing all of the energy maybe that's your job some of the other
guys are bidding thinking well he's going to be in talent he'll be
a little bit or Turns out he wasn't hired to bed but. I did talk to
a few of them who were the bidders the bid the three teeth project and they both.
Twenty thirty miles to get up all the balls that is just not enough work for us to
go over there Mr Wood bit in at this time and then also there's
a lot of work going on right now it's doing just one block by block we were very
fortunate with retain it a very good number there it was
a pretty significant quantity but now we're doing just one block of layer of
repairs it's thought. Is there any way that we could come up with another project
or two to see about getting the bid at the same price for two projects I mean I
think that's quite
a bit more than what I had you know based off of what you told me I mean that.
We followed the bidding process and I can answer kind of tied this is the project
it what it all forbids I want to get let me play
a level playing field. This is what we've got you know. We're open with we're going
out of energy number three. I mean why is it just didn't work out what was.
In the water main stream back together and this makes you want to scrap the project
try to get in the spring
and really in that situation really do with the Hill. You know that's where we.
Have
a bad situation right now oh it's just rubble ready even. Though I don't
know. One thing is with the construction going on
now everybody pulls back.
You know see things getting better you. Know we were we were
fortunate son three eighteen the come in under estimate and unfortunately we've
come in over estimate here and you know that adds about maybe three thousand for
the eight affected residents to the cost of the project on the streets got to get
done you know thinking that good road in the past well I know what you just can't
have that there. Any other discussion
anybody else wishing to address the council but under public your own.
Weight. I am president of the council at first things church and president of
the property committee and we're under the the assumption that we will not be
assessed for this project as I stated in the paper being it's been done less than
twenty years less than twenty years ago and.
We thought that was
a rule that you can't be assessed twice as your answer that question. Yes
and I was going to point that out earlier but. The our code calls for
a replacement on streets of St surfacing of fifteen years so after fifteen
years we can we can assess or you can assess the variation of that as with curb and
gutter curb and gutter has
a twenty year. Life span going to our code in the
code then states that there would be one nine hundred twenty S.
Of the cars he pro-rated out wherever you're at in that twenty year term so that's
what the assessment roll would would look like there be one nine hundred twenty S.
Of the curve in gutter but one hundred percent of the street.
The question is why was the street tore up other than we know the water going as
bad. And the water main was buried too shallow had that not
been done incorrectly or not up to the accepted practices in ninety five when
we had to tear the street up yet. So in other words in the street got damaged and
has to be replaced because we've done in ninety five
we have
a ground stand that. Other than sander no. I
don't think still in the problem your water he was in the middle of the street we
could see it out with the other water with great metal it would be no sense to try
to imagine the middle of the street as far as I think it's night by night why we
are where we are and you talk about current god or are you going
to remove the curtain daughter because that or because it hasn't been removed
Worley going to replace the pieces that are missing. So that's according to whoever
owns that section of the property that needs to be replaced when we get the final
quantities I'll sit down with raw to make sure we're following the cord on that I'm
not exactly sure how to proceed. One nine hundred twenty S.
It will for the curb gutter cost and everyone Sure and it also will depend on the.
Method. You know. Everyone. At the front what that might be.
But the curb and gutter that's right now will be replaced we don't dissipate now
any more and in the. Water as it as it is right
now I don't think you touched her or know your sidewalk Oh.
Well the sidewalk before her. All the other small sections. That.
Lead that. I guess.
Everyone. Here that I might also point out that I don't doesn't that doesn't help
you with the street costs I know it doesn't but. This is the second part of
a project that's the water main of course has been installed and now portion of
that council opted not to assess directly to the benefitting property owners but
will be ultimately included in. Probably
a either taken out of water fund reserves are included in another project. For the
whole tax base so the cost of putting in the new water main will not be
a part of ours that's not going to be part of the assessment Council agreed to that
earlier right. Thank you and that cost was
approximately sixty five thousand plus or minus
and. Yeah. Thank you.
Could you please what I needed to do sign in by them sorter OK Thank you. I've run
what the UP what's the deal on face plant out to me. I'm
a claim to being assessed twice in first English you know SAS twice. The the
water the water was done on what I don't know what street that is but I know
Maclean's face well Street or salt and sort of see over one of their first English
. Yeah the assessment that the role that Greg put together was for just seconds
just the abutting properties. For the street footage and he did the two different
methodologies one was the per unit the other was per lineal foot and
McLean missed the McLean property has two parcels showing up on the parcel Idema
that abut on Second Street south west and then first English has two parcels
so what you alternately both have to parcel your parcels are split.
East and West are correct there's.
And what that you know ultimately when we have prior to when we set the final
improvement hearing or final assessment hearing you know we'll need to know
a staff how you want to determine how did how to do the assessments whether it's on
a unit basis or when you go for it. I don't need that answer tonight
or any further discussion anyone else wishing to address the Council on the three
hundred eighteen three on site history Southwest improvement project. I have seen
there is none we will close the public hearing at this time and the chair will take
a motion to adopt the resolution ordering the second Street Southwest street
improvement project and in
a word in the bid to buy menace roadways. With the lowest possible bit of eighty
three thousand nine hundred seventy eight dollars. I will make that motion of
thinking of
a motion by Bill so I could buy Merrill all in favor I suppose.
Very. Moves on to the consent of genda items on the sorry the genda may be
adopted or they may be removed and placed on the business area of the agenda for
discussion purposes before proving for the folks at home all read the consent
agenda item A is
a just and correct claims for accounting period and in August first two thousand
and fourteen item B.
Of the meeting minutes for the July fifteenth two thousand and fourteen city
council meeting item C resolution twenty nine he authorized an acceptance of
monetary donation for the fire department Item D.
Administrative clarification for the third can
a street improvement project item E.D.S.
Sign retroflex to any policy item F.
Promotes. Junior to full time E.M.F. Supervisor item G.E.
Resolution Twenty nine hundred two deny employment area plat for mole hill phase
two. Item each quit claim deed for nybble property I don't mind
a liquor license violation and call for
a public hearing these sold in Mexico I don't J A want to or
a liquor license item K.
Hiring of Tony Han for full time public works minus one item L.
Hiring of Trevor Sullivan for full time police officer item application for payment
one from S.M.
Hanna just for second Street Southwest water main improvements are there any items
anyone wishes to bring down I will be bringing down items seven F.
That will be one.
If no one else wishes to bring anything down make
a motion to approve the consent of general minus Item seven. Second
motion by Merrill second by Bill all in favor by those
areas and I was the counsel business item
a day is the promotion of civil kero one basically the only thing I do have their
on that is we need to approve the date. Of hire two July the twenty ninth instead
of August the six for the promotion.
For Council of the memory at the seven fifteen council meeting
Brenda was given direction to hire
a full time or hire for this position and it and so she did the employees
started on July twenty ninth this is formalizing thought so it's in the minutes
that we have hired Mr Kira. And. Then
chair take a motion to a prove the motion of civil kero Jr to full time him
a supervisor is voted affected above but the effect that they will be July the
twenty ninth and I will second the motion by Merrill second by Bill.
All in favor right both. Kerry says. The moves us all
tied of nine ports.
You got off I don't know what I'm going to do I think I have is that the Planning
Commission meeting for this coming Monday night will be postponed to September
eighth the regular Monday meeting in September so I am.
Not running. I just have one
thing. Tomorrow I'll be acting in my capacity again as
a member of the E.M.'s honor guard to serve at the funeral for UPS
or Scott Patrick and when I do that I also like to take that opportunity to
thank the members of my staff will cover me so that I can act in that capacity
and I also like to remember to thank the local V.F.W.
Who was instrumental in first providing me with
a uniform to begin that service with the. Honor Guard
and I think the city for giving me the opportunity to serve with that organization
as well it is
a very meaningful one to me so I thank you for that.
Tom just
a reminder tomorrow and Thursday we'll be updating the troll even playground
equipment been fortunate the last three or four years to get some grants that were
forty five to fifty percent grounds. That we have replaced which just came out of
the park that occasion so that's all we do on the ark will be tore up for
a few days to or gets better but just one you know. No
thanks. If. Just so that people are aware we've gotten through most of
our community events for the year however we will have
a dedication for the Veterans Memorial this weekend and there will be some parking
and Street closing disruptions associated with that for just general traffic. But
it should be very minimal as far as the impact part of Mill Street will be closed
we're going to close part of the parking lot at two rivers so that bleachers can be
set up for the event that will happen tomorrow in that will be closed that section
of it will be closed until the date of cation and then as Brenda alluded to sadly
tomorrow will be the funeral for Madonna Heights Officer Scott Patrick. Want the
council to be aware myself and Officer Edwin center will be attending
a couple of other officers had indicated their desire to go but we still have duty
to our citizens here so they will be working. We also are sending two of our
reserves. Jake Young Mark and Roy to get will be going up to assist with
the. Road closings and any details that they may have for that they would all
request for assistance and we were honored to be able to answer their request
that's all I have. Like you say on that speck that our condolences go out to
his family and to the city. It's
a sad situation I want to hope that here in kind of all's we never have to deal
with but we give them our full support and backing of and by helping them out this
way it's. I think it's
a great asset to be able to do that I know they've helped us out in the past when
the president came stuff so I mean it's just
a sad situation that. We're behind and not going to all of those
are out and his family and and the all of law enforcement throughout the state I
appreciate that Mr Mayor. The chief there is
a friend of mine I mailed him that next morning and told him I didn't need to hear
back but he did reply I know I will probably not have
a chance to see him tomorrow but when I see him in the few trucks or consuls
thoughts and yours thank you thank you I will do the same with their administrator
I did contact him the next day also and said if I said unfortunately I've had
experience in this area and if he needs any help let me know. And.
I know. I think I think. I have some
concerns have been expressed to me. In our local canoe rental place on the weekends
it gets very busy and
a lot of people parking on the streets and around that bridge is there anything we
can do to help the. Safety factor around there.
The. Biggest problem I see is that because of its location.
You know the parking there would be available be on the other side of the river on
the weekends that has also been. Prime usage for people that are not with
that one but with the other can do service. As well as people that are utilizing
the parks on the trails. We don't have full control over because it's
a state highway but we could you know have some conversations with them and to see
if there's some things that we could do initially we were seeing
a significant amount of cars parking on. River Road so much to the so that we ended
up restricting one side parking there because it was making it hard for our
emergency vehicles to get in and out. But you know we could we could look at some
some options one of the things that you know I come to mind would be. If the canoe
places is that busy. You know trying to find
a place that they could offer shuttles from I mean they're already picking the
people up and taking them maybe they could you know PARK PARK offsite and you know
be able to bring them in with their or their bus or their van we could have
a conversation with them to see what we could come up with this is some
alternatives All right thank you. You know. The one
thing without it that was brought out possible for I don't know all our gold but we
talked about. To look into the possibility of parking on the grass here by
river road would help at all. Talk to. Plaistow near bike
rental place to see if anything like that would you know so. I do.
I do know that launches one thing you know really bothers me because they are right
on the main highway they're very big. Size and without me now. We have
talked about trying to do something to help with that to give them
a different lot Yury you know then. I think this is an issue that.
To talk
a little bit more and I do like the shuttle thing. Is some kind of shuttle shuttle
service from your old party. Herself so. I do I think it's
good you don't rough it up because. It's really nice to see how easy it is but it
also. I would have to do some checking I don't think would be
a good policy for us to utilize our parking space for vehicles. And I'm not sure
what property this the city has adjacent to live station on the other side of river
road. But you know I think Rick we're open to to exploring any options that would
work. The only other thing Rob You us is want to bring up to the
cops well that. I was asked to come out to the media in
a country that you know last week with
a match we had out there and business people and I wanted to bring this up tonight
because the gal I talked out there I thought it was
a real good. Man to kind of push the buttons and see what we could do.
They would definitely like the right hand turn lane but they don't like the blended
lanes. And. I think everything points to be true
if we could get to your right hand turn leads. Really be
a great thing you know the coming back where that's going to go the only thing I
will say that they talked about there that day and I thought was really an
important thing is we do have
a cul de sac that's proposed on the end of Syracuse and instead of that kind back
in the twenty four the way it is now also you could look right around there you
didn't feel that there was
a real safety issue as far as police ambulance fire. He also brought up the fact
that new role bills dollars from the super merit go hi way out there no you know is
very busy right now. Or likely going to get worse once everything comes our way.
You bring up the fact that if we did have
a fire please call you know we have the right hand turn lane good luck to
the overpass there take the writing and drawing lead be right up as you are told in
that area. Of the room those were brought up and.
And still be
a portion of the study we're having. A traffic study that we have to do to take the
next Yeah I believe that they will be don't you all are right there somebody.
Who we are those who are still pushing. Things go on you
know what we're dealing with here is going to. Be everybody has forty.
Fourth Oh Tom has so it's
a been told to speed done. Kind of road seventeen I know it's the county in
all this could stall we discussed the deal with. Some homeowners association
residents around could be
a county study that have to be done and as Greg and I advise it might not be to our
favor you know I mean I'd hate to see forty five coming in further in the town I
think just the fact that it's a rural setting
a road I think people just feels like they do on one thousand that you know once
they see the cornfields and grass are off to the races and I don't know.
What although what the county would do if they would drop that thirty and have
a ball further to Sunflower court. Or if you just replicate the situation you have
where everybody still comes in at sixty miles an hour regardless so so that's
a big issue no shoulders out there and no. Believe trails I mean you know.
That for three years you know. There's something should be done you know and we'd
all do the county and all about it no need. To talk to the county as far as
a speed study or our I know we we've had conversations in the past with them on.
The trail you know extension. And those are not very positive and their
desire to do that. As far as the study I don't think so you know we have done
some directed patrols in that area. And. I
recall. And last time was probably
a year or so ago but I don't think we ended up with that many say Taishan. Out of
that. You know the biggest the biggest problem is Tom alluded to you know Mendez
philosophy and that sort of gets adopted down through you know counties and
engineer engineers for cities is that people will drive to what they feel is
appropriate. And because it's such
a barren stretch. Even though it's got
a lot of residential around it it's not right. And so people perceive it as you
know not having that same risk factors I would I would say. But you know it
definitely you know I know Tom's expressed it I've expressed it I think you know
Aaron previously had expressed it to the to the county I'm doing something out
there to try to connect them into you know the the other part of the city so we
reduce that likelihood of cars make seen there are
a lot of young students out there I mean young kids up there that you know there's
a lot of families and out you know and they're sort of isolated from the rest of
our city services so to speak because of that lack of the trail system along that
county road and I think it probably primarily came down to cost
is you know I'm sure the homeowners don't want to pay for the county didn't want to
pay for it and shift it to us if we want to do it when check on that though I
mean see what they might want to do with the parts of speech and stuff. Just to see
if we can get something done at least to slow him down
a little bit coming into that stretch you get cars pulling out of there and young
kids might be riding
a bike up that way and we don't need any fatalities out there. That
we did like Tom was mentioning we did discuss if public works this afternoon and. A
couple years ago we talked about possible trails along seventeen and just slightly
off and coming up the. Cannibal of Swan But it was
cost prohibitive because those in the developments out there did not want to
participate but. It was tough for the city to do it and as everybody knows you
drive out there as you go up the the hill out that way you've got steep slopes on
either side is very difficult to build up to get a wide enough area to to have
a trailer or whatever but. And it is tough. For the kids coming
down and that includes my own. So it's it's
a dangerous thing but there's no easy solution what else can I think
if not I'm actually there is one other item that I'd like to mention tonight the
filings for city council are open they close next Tuesday August twelfth at five
o'clock we have the offices of mayor and two council members for
a four year term and one council member for
a two to your term that will be on the ballot. In any
thing else. Like a motion to adjourn so they can.